Carl Franklin and Richard Morris try to get to the bottom of why everyone is so afraid of the ketogenic diet, of eating fat, and lowering carbs. Feeling they talk about themselves entirely too much, Carl and Richard turn to the fans this week for stories of ketophobia, both in themselves and others. The dudes also talk to one Carrie Thompson, who has been eating a ketogenic diet for 18 years. Guess what? She's not dead. In fact, she's a model of perfect health. What's up with that?